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Liberty

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Liberty last won the day on April 28 2012

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About Liberty

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  • Birthday September 30

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    Female
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    Australia
  • Interests
    Gaming, making games, reading manga, all kinds of nerdy stuff

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    RPG Maker XP
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    Level Designer
  • Other Skills
    Writing, Eventing, Spriting
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    S:IDoP, THaNoY, WETSS + many others
  1. Just a FAQ I whipped up for another site. I thought I'd share. FAQ Why now? Why not 10 years ago? The simple answer? Because the community itself shot down any attempts EB tried at legalizing the product. After XP's release no one bothered asking for it. The complete answer? Degica only took over the publishing of EB! products at the advent of XP. Up until that time Protexus was the publisher and they weren't really concerned with the English community. When Degica took over, they reached out to the Western community. It's thanks to them (and Agetec - the publishers of the console RMs who showed EB! that there was a market for RM product here) that we have any English makers at all. They also hadn't thought that it would be appreciated, so until a fan actually asked about it... When they were asked they said, sure, let's see how much demand there is and if there's enough we'll do that. Is it worth it for them to do this? Aren't they just wasting money that could be better spent on other things? To quote Touchfuzzy, Admin of the official RM site: In other words, the money they make back on this can be used to make other projects, like more resources for the newer makers. How is it a waste of their time to hire a few translators to make an English version of a game that might net them some profit back from a product they missed out on thanks to a shoddy publisher? Why should we pay for something we already have? There are two main reasons and they both boil down to ethics. The first is that it's illegal to use the engine. Okay, get the laughter out of your system. I'll wait. Seriously though, supporting the system that has been loved and used so much over the years is a great thing. It makes you feel better, for one, and encourages Degica to listen to the fans about what they want, for two. Me, I like the idea of owning RM2K3. I like the thought that I've given back to the people who had such a large part of my youth. I remember the first time I even found out there was an RPG Maker and how awesome it was, thinking that I'd be able to make my own game, just like the ones I'd played in my childhood. I love the idea of giving something back for that. Another reason is the RTP. Currently, unless you bought the Japanese version, using the RTP in any engine is illegal. Remember that RTP is sounds as well as graphics. The legal usage of a selection of music and sound effects... do I need to quote how much it costs to 'buy' music to use that flows and fits together? Hundreds, if not thousands of dollars. Seriously. Owning the program. In English. Legally. This means, barring any rips or other illegal content, you may sell your game. Xp/VX/VXA are better! Also, do 2k instead! That's not a question, but I'll respond anyway. Yes, they're better in a lot of ways, but for those looking to push themselves when it comes to eventing, for those who are new to the programs, for those who like old school RPG charm? 2k3 is a better bet. 2k... well, as much as I love 2k, 2k3 offers something that NONE of the other makers have. A default side-view battle system. Also, better eventing. How much will this cost? They should add extra stuff! I put these two together because they relate. Firstly, they've said right out that the cost would be set at $20. Not too bad, eh? This is a program in English and the RTP for use in any other engine. Neato~ Adding extra stuff would just drive up the price and make things harder on their end. A translation, maybe a bug fix for the agility issue... That's what they're offering. They aren't going to recode a whole new engine, they aren't going to add scripting features or higher resolution or redo the graphical side of the RTp or add self switches (;. because doing so would take away from their other projects and drive up the price. But what about patches and things like Cherry's support programs? Aren't they illegal? Yes, of course they are. To make the patches they had to mess with the source code of the game and that is against the EULA. That said, it's like using rips. It's illegal, but as long as you're not trying to sell the game and waving big red flags, Degica isn't likely to be bothered prosecuting you for it. I mean, how many prosecutions have there been with the pirated version? Or even with VX games that use the Tile Swap patch? I can think of two, perhaps, and those were really popular and well-known outside of the community. It's like editing rom files. The companies won't go out of their way to police it unless someone throws up a flare of some sort (That one Chrono Trigger fangame comes to mind.) Is this official or are you just trying to gather support for a cause that has no chance of occurring? This is official. If 1000 signatures are raised, Degica will do this. Why? Because a fan asked. How awesome is that? Any other questions? Just ask. Also, by Iddalai~
  2. 1. In your opinion, is RM2k3 better, or different enough from RMXP to necessitate it's release? Yes. It's quite different. For one, no scripting but easier eventing. Also, it's a more charming system, imo. The graphics are bright without being blocky and chibified, the battle system is default side view - unlike any of the other makers - and it's a great learning tool for beginners. The mapping system is one of the best, too. XP's is pretty awesome, but 2k3's is second place to that, which is awesome for an older program. 2. Do you think rm2k3 can make anything that RMXP or further generations of the engine can not achieve? Of course. Look at all the games that have been crafted on the game! How many of those are better than the ones that are released now? How many of the new ones are considered classics? How many are like The Way, Hero's Realm, Three The Hard Way, Power Trip, A Blurred Line, Wilfred the Hero, Leo and Leah, A Home Far Away, Naufrager - to name a few. It's also the best maker for straight RPGs. Sure, XP is great for cross genres and platformers. There's a lot you can do with the scripting capabilities, but it doesn't have that old school charm. It's like FF12 vs FF6. Both great but one's a charming romp and the others more adventuresque. 3. Would there not be logic behind them not planning to translate it originally, or do you think they just weren't sure about market viability? This question is asked a lot, in the vein of "Why now?". The answer, plain and simple is this : (I did my homework~) The current publisher only came on board around the XP era of RM games. This is Degica. The publisher before that, Protexus, didn't bother with the English communities because they didn't see a need to. They didn't bother reaching out to we westerners. You saw it a lot with game publishers - keeping games in Japan. And don't be fooled, RM isn't software, it's a game-making game. When Degica came on board they had XP up their sleeves and had to try and focus on getting it out to the English market. They didn't think about releasing the earlier ones in English because they had to try and promote the English product and make contacts within the western community. They had their hands full trying to coax a beaten community back into trusting them. Why didn't they offer sooner? Easy. They had no idea that people wanted this product until someone actually asked for it. It's only taken this long before someone did. >.<; That said, the question isn't "Is XP/VXA/VX better?, but "If there were an English 2k3, would you buy it?" You possibly wouldn't since you're hung up on XP, others would though, enjoying the charm of an easier to use system with more graphics at hand, a default side view system and a charming RTP. To some, that's what they want. Those are the people we're reaching out to. ...and those who would like to be legal in this. Me, I want this. That's why I asked about it. And Degica said, "Sure, if there's a demand, we won't mind doing this. We'd make a bit back off our older programs that could be used to fuel the newer projects."
  3. Petition for Signatures Official Topic Well, what can I say? There's a possibilty that Degica/EB! will look into creating an official English version of RM2K3 if there's enough demand for it. What do you all think? Should we embrace this momentous occasion that would allow us to use 2K3 legally? Would you pay for such a thing? Let your voices be heard! And sign the damn petition! <3 Also, please spread the word around to any and all sites you frequent where people use the program. The more people made aware, the better! (Wasn't sure where to put this, so I hope here's okay.) Also, if you're wondering why you should bother... Why wouldn't you? It helps EB! and Degica to be inspired to make more of an effort to listen to the fans. You no longer have to live in shame knowing you've got a pirated copy. You will legally own it. It also makes a neat collection item for nostalgia's sake. You can legally sell a 2k3 game. You will gain legal usage of the RTP that came with it so that if you want to use it in other RM engines, you can. You'll be supporting the people who support your hobby - it's almost like you'll be supporting your hobby yourself. You will no longer be one of the dregs of society who pulls down the rest of your hobby-kin. Are those enough reasons? Or would you like more? This really is a big deal, though. How many other companies would take a fan's suggestion and run with it when it comes to an older program? Wanna be part of RM history? Vote yes~ Disclaimer: This was requested by a fan - namely me - to a staff member, so no hatin' on Degica. Got an issue, take it up with me and I'll show you my reasoning. Since some people are asshats. (Not necessarily anyone here, but there've been some people that are being a bit douchey about the idea.)
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